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Just a reminder that the extreme right is using toxic masculinity as a way to recruit young men.

While we can easily blame men for being toxic, I don't think it will fix much. We need to create a narrative that speaks to men that feel lost. One that's different than all the toxic shit that's so effective on these guys right now.

There's legions of young men feeling left behind by society, and we need to make sure they don't feel that way before things get ugly.

Mans R

@ainmosni Maybe it would be a good idea to stop saddling men as a group with what basically amounts to a variation of original sin.

@mansr @ainmosni Acknowledging privilege is quite different from shouldering original sin.

@clacke @ainmosni Many of the men in question are anything but privileged within their social context. It's hardly surprising that they seek out an environment where they don't feel attacked simply for existing.

@clacke @mansr @ainmosni Yeah, original sin is real. "Privilege" isn't.
@Myles @clacke @mansr @ainmosni And if it is, why wouldn’t I want more of it?
@clacke @ainmosni @mansr
Because original sin is something you are afflicted with and can be forgiven of. The same isn't true of Privilege.

@mphjack7 @mansr @ainmosni I have healthy parents who own their house, I grew up with good and cheap national healthcare and free university education, and my parents have been able to support me my whole life. Even now when they're in their 80s, I've never had to support them. I've never had reason to fear asking a policeman for directions.

Should I be forgiven for this? No. There is nothing to forgive. Should I shut up before I tell someone to just ask their parents for money, or go to the police? Yes. Should I realize that I don't know what it's like to be truly poor and have nothing to eat, even in the freezer? Yes.

Should I shut up before telling some white guy that grew up poor that they should consider themselves lucky because at least they're not an Mexican immigrant like the successful business man across the street? Also yes. It's not a competition and it's not linear.

@clacke @ainmosni @mphjack7 All true. That's why "acknowledge your privilege, man" is not very different a message than "repent, sinner." If you are a man who is struggling in any way, being constantly told how privileged you are is going to feel like an attack on your very existence. It is then easy to be drawn to people who offer a different message where you are not the villain.

> That's why "acknowledge your privilege, man" is not very different a message than "repent, sinner."

@mansr How can you claim to agree with anything I said, and then go and say this as if it were in line with what I said?

Me being a bad person from birth and having to ask for forgiveness because my fictional ancestor was curious, that's original sin. It's a repressive mechanism to keep people in line, especially when you set yourself up as the official mediator to the authority on forgiveness.

It is very different from keeping in mind that everyone has different challenges, and that something that seems obvious or easy to me might not be that for someone else, and that the secret to any success I've had might have been 80% out of my control, that a person is not better than another person because they've had more success. That's what it means to acknowledge privilege. That's a mechanism for empathy.

@ainmosni @mphjack7

@clacke @ainmosni @mphjack7 I'm not talking about you or me. I'm talking about the kid growing up in a trailer park in Nebraska.

@clacke @ainmosni @mansr >be nigger or other flavor of shitskin
>everyone makes excuses for you

Privilege sounds fucking great, where can I get some?
@SpurgAnon @clacke @ainmosni @mansr its free at walmart in california .. just take less than 999 bucks worth ?
@clacke @mansr @ainmosni I don’t believe in either and think both are retarded so I’m safe here, though it is ironic that you cry over the idea of original sin while hating White people (doubly so White men) unless they cuck out, and even then nothing is ever enough.
@clacke @mansr @ainmosni If privilege and systemic racism were real and worked how you people think, you wouldn't be allowed to say this kind of crap.

Leftoids create/mutilate language so as to justify their hatred, envy, and bigotry, to shift the blame for their actions and desires onto the people they've designated as their enemies. Everything leftoids accuse the other side of is projection.

If you keep accusing people of a crime, despite their actual guilt, your target will eventually decide to become the monster you are painting them as. If I am going to be damned whether I'm a sinner or a saint, I might as well enjoy actually committing the crime I'm being punished for. You fools are creating the conditions that will lead to your own destruction. You're just too stupid and arrogant to see it.

@Charles_in_Charge @clacke @mansr @ainmosni They might do all that.

Might.

They might also just continue actively participating in the system and become a Rightoid. They would then reify what the Leftoid was pushing 5-10 years ago instead. Already they push "our trannies are more attractive than their trannies!"

There appears to still be too much buy-in in this system which allows for more tools of jews to be created.

@clacke @mansr @ainmosni Whites don't have enough privilege. But we will again. Don't worry about it faggot.
Whoa. Cool it with the anti-semitic remarks.
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the only ones with "privilege" they don't deserve are zionists, and we will correct that problem soon.
@clacke @mansr @ainmosni my privilege was to be born poor white and male in a time where white men are the demonized group, you faggots couldn't stop for one second even out of self preservation and that's why you're doomed.
@clacke @mansr @ainmosni the minority of people with brains on the enemy team are noticing "wow there's a lot of young angry men around who are starting to be galvanized against us" it's too late, you've earned everything that comes next and i don't feel sorry for you.